Yes, it is very interesting. I read most of it and then lent it to a professor who used in as research on a paper. He left town without returning it so I need to buy another one.

That book looks interesting, thanks Sibby.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2012/06/06/americas-key-founders-neither-christians-nor-deists-an-interview-on-a-major-new-book/

Aspasia, you can explain it to them, but unfortunately you can’t understand it for them…

Thank you for your judgmental opinions regarding my religious beliefs, a topic which has nothing to do with the subject at hand: the fact that this nation was not founded as a Christian nation. And to quote myself from the original article:

Jesus says, “Let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone.” The false pastor says, “If you don’t agree with my religious views, you will not be saved.”

Bob, that is only evidence that the Supreme Court decided the United States was a Christian nation in 1892, and in no way invalidates the obvious fact that this nation was not founded as a Christian nation more than 100 years before that, as evidenced by the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796.

Wow. A person has to be Christian to be a good person. Your judgmental insanity is amazing. On the subject of Deism, there is no reason that a Deist-leaning President would not lead a public prayer. You will notice, if you actually read the Thanksgiving Prayers they gave that they did not mention Jesus. When a person says “God” or “Providence” it is only immediately a reference to Jesus in your twisted mind. Just because you define God as Jesus doesn’t mean everyone else on the planet does. Also you keep going on and on about “Deists never pray” because they don’t think that God interferes in the material world, which only demonstrates how unenlightened and selfish your own prayers are. Have you ever considered the possibility that someone might pray to God just to say “I love you God, thank you for my life.” Not every person on this planet is so spiritually stunted that they believe that prayer is just an opportunity to ask God for things. Also, your views on Deism and whether or not the Founders were Deist is in direct conflict with the view of the rest of the planet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

If Thomas Jefferson called himself a Christian, provide the evidence. Meanwhile:

“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, 11 April 1823

“It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Apocalypse], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, 17 Jan 1825

“As you say of yourself, I too am an Epicurian. I consider the genuine (not the imputed) doctrines of Epicurus as containing everything rational in moral philosophy which Greece and Rome have left us.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, 31 Oct 1819

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.” – Thomas Jefferson, Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July 1816

Not that Jefferson’s religious leanings have any bearing on the fact that this nation was not founded as a Christian nation, since we have the Treaty of Tripoli, which you cannot dispute no matter how you froth at the mouth.

And then you finalize your ridiculous argument, once again raving in unintelligible circles while ignoring all clear factual evidence, by saying I must not be a Christian, and must loathe God, because I have disagreed with you and pointed out the reality of the historical documentation, and for evidence of my loathing of God and lack of Christianity you provide your lunatic interpretation of the Bible and my statements.

And so we have the viewpoint of Bob Ellis – “One must be Christian to be a good person.”

And we have the viewpoint of George Washington – “If they are good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa or Europe; they may be Mahometans, Jews, Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists…. ”

Clearly Bob Ellis and George Washington are not in agreement. And that is because George Washington was a great man who loved all Americans, while Bob Ellis is an intolerant man who would make Americans conform to his own insane beliefs.